Does betting parlays in MMA make sense?

I was prompted to write the blog after I saw two good level handicappers saying that betting parlays was a bad idea and that ultimately you end up losing money when compared to just betting the sections of the parlay individually. That seemed counter to my own experience, so I wanted to analyse it properly.

From anecdotal evidence of my personal betting, I’ve found parlays to be really successful. However, it’s possible that I was remembering all the wins and discarding losses from my memory banks. I’ve got a whole database of bets to look through though, on Bet MMA, so those stats won’t lie… let’s have a look.

I ran a script that imagined every parlay bet was for 1 unit. I then split those parlays into bits and also calculated what the total winnings / losses would have been if, instead of betting 1 unit on the whole parlay, we bet 1 unit on each of the individual sections.

Now, first of all, it certainly doesn’t look to me like you net lose by betting on parlays. For everyone in the database, here are the stats.

Number of Parlays: 1263
Won: 540 (43%), Lost: 723 (57%)
Winnings: 208 (ROI: 17%)
Average Odds: 2.32

Number of Parlay Sections: 3047
Won: 2032 (67%), Lost: 1015 (33%)
Winnings: -35 (ROI: -1%)
Average Odds: 1.46

As you can see, my initial gut instinct appears to be correct. Whilst most parlays lose, it’s more profitable to bet parlays than the individual sections of the parlays. Handicappers in our directory were risking 41% of the bank balance they’d risk betting all the individual sections, whilst actually ending up with a profit compared to what would have been a loss.

What’s also very interesting, is that people appear to have bet the wrong amounts on each parlay. Whilst betting 1 unit on every parlay in our database would have returned the above profit, the actual profit was only 16.79 units fromย  3,574.8 units bet.

That’s very interesting and something I’ll look into more further down the article. In terms of a few more basic stats:

For the top 10 of the MMA handicapper directory.
Number of Parlays: 218
Won: 115 (53%), Lost: 103 (47%)
Winnings: 67 (ROI: 31%)
Average Odds: 2.20

Number of Parlay Sections: 512
Won: 377 (74%), Lost: 135 (26%)
Winnings: 53 (ROI: 10%)
Average Odds: 1.43

My own public tip stats
Number of Parlays: 28
Won: 15 (54%), Lost: 13 (46%)
Winnings: 48 (ROI: 170%)
Average Odds: 3.79

Number of Parlay Sections: 95
Won: 77 (81%), Lost: 18 (19%)
Winnings: 43 (ROI: 46%)
Average Odds: 1.52

Again, from both of these two sets of stats, you can see that betting parlays is more profitable. Obviously the better handicappers at the top of the leaderboard have a higher percentage of correct overall parlays and individual picks within those parlays. We would still be making money betting the individual sections but we’d be risking a lot more and not getting as good returns.

I’m going to break it down into the profit by the number of legs in the parlay and see if that makes any difference, to see if less legs = more profit or vice versa.

Parlays with 2 legs
Number of Parlays: 892
Won: 427 (48%), Lost: 465 (52%)
Winnings: 31 (ROI: 3%)
Average Odds: 2.08

Number of Parlay Sections: 1780
Won: 1191 (67%), Lost: 589 (33%)
Winnings: -42 (ROI: -2%)
Average Odds: 1.45

Parlays with 3 legs
Number of Parlays: 266
Won: 93 (35%), Lost: 173 (65%)
Winnings: 55 (ROI: 21%)
Average Odds: 2.79

Number of Parlay Sections: 792
Won: 542 (68%), Lost: 250 (32%)
Winnings: 10 (ROI: 1%)
Average Odds: 1.44

Parlays with >3 legs
Number of Parlays: 105
Won: 20 (19%), Lost: 85 (81%)
Winnings: 123 (ROI: 117%)
Average Odds: 4.87

Number of Parlay Sections: 475
Won: 299 (63%), Lost: 176 (37%)
Winnings: -3 (ROI: -1%)
Average Odds: 1.54

Another interesting breakdown is the bet amount, so let’s look at over or under 1 unit bet on a parlay.

1 unit & over parlays
Number of Parlays: 2187
Won: 996 (46%), Lost: 1191 (54%)
Winnings: -31 (ROI: -1%)
Average Odds: 2.15

Number of Parlay Sections: 3714
Won: 2316 (62%), Lost: 1398 (38%)
Winnings: -80 (ROI: -2%)
Average Odds: 1.56

Under 1 unit parlays
Number of Parlays: 306
Won: 77 (25%), Lost: 229 (75%)
Winnings: 227 (ROI: 74%)
Average Odds: 4.41

Number of Parlay Sections: 563
Won: 249 (44%), Lost: 314 (56%)
Winnings: 30 (ROI: 5%)
Average Odds: 2.31

SO now we’ve started to hit some more meaningful numbers. We can see that when it comes to the entire directory, the larger unit bet parlays are indeed losing money although very, very marginally. On the other hand, the bets you’d probably consider a bit of a punt (where people are going big odds at a much lower stake, on more legs), are paying off pretty handsomely.

There is one huge outlier bet amongst this lot, from MMA Bets UK. massive odds mma bet

That is contributing 136 units of the 227. Even without it, you’re still looking at a good profit. However, really we shouldn’t remove it because that’s kind of the point – with big parlays, you only need to hit one every so often to have a massive impact on your profitability.

That bet also goes a little way to highlighting one of the type of bets I personally think are good value; x wins by decision. I hit these up quite regularly with my personal betting and whilst there won’t be many times when you can call 5 of them correctly all on the same event, I think they’re great value.

What I personally like to do is find one bet I think is a bit of a punt but massively over-valued, then add one some “sure thing” bets, which I think have an 85%+ chance of coming off. Below are a couple of my bets along these lines; one which came off and one which didn’t.

MMA betting, Bet MMA

As you can see, I’ve gone for one underdog pick and then a load of favourites. If the dog bit comes off and one of the favourite parts doesn’t, you end up looking like a bit of a plonker. However, for me personally, as you can see from the stats above, parlaying things together is still net paying off with higher returns.

You can also see that I was inadvertently doing what the above breakdown suggests is a good plan; betting more than you might think is a good idea on these big parlays. Had I pussed out and only put 0.5 units, that’s ~20 units I’d have missed out on.

A perfect example of which can be found in my picks from this weekend’s card. I was about 70% sure that Luis Henrique was going to get a stoppage and the odds were 3.5 (aka a 28.57% chance). That’s an enormous difference. I parlayed 2 units in there with a couple of other bits for a probable 8 unit profit (if Namajunas wins) but I’ve regretted only doing 2 units on inside the distance, not just with my tips but with my personal betting. 8U of profit off a 2U bet is nice… but if you’re confident enough that the odds are sooooooooo far off, there’s no harm in doubling that in my opinion. Especially if you have access to in-play betting, recouping a potential 4 unit loss should be no bother at all. If 4 units profit does seem like a bit of a struggle to make up… well I’d suggest following someone else’s picks from the top of our directory!

Obviously you have to hit SOME of your parlays and if you have a run of 10 misses in a row at 2 units, that’s a big problem… So, well… don’t miss that many in a row! Research a LOT, be generally cautious, but bet the big value relatively big.

In terms of poor research and the example above, I added that Over 0.5 rounds pick as a bit of a throwaway add-on, having watched plenty of Leslie Smith in the past but not having watched any tape at all for this specific matchup. I watched some tape about a week after making this bet and immediately regretted it. DO NOT rely on gut instinct!

What I’d also say is that it’s a bad idea to try and aim for a certain combined odds and bump up your parlay to those odds… e.g. “I reckon I’ll try and do a 10/1 parlay this weekend; let’s see what looks good”. Just take things as they go. Sometimes I don’t think there’s any value at all in a parlay. Sometimes I just bet a really short odds prop and be happy to take a 20% profit. However, if you’ve had an event where you’ve done a lot of research and watched several fights, parlay away, I say.

Finally, as with everything, keep a note of whether you’re actually making a profit doing it. Some people will be good at this and some won’t. There’s no shame in not being that great at parlays because it takes a lot of effort, time and research. If you don’t have that time, stick to the props!

Euro 2016 Free Bets

I know this is an MMA betting blog but everyone likes free stuff, so here are some free bet offers on Euro 2016. Use the free bets on MMA ๐Ÿ™‚

If you are in the UK or have access to UK bookmakers, there are several good free bet offers and you don’t really need to have any football knowledge to make them worthwhile.

Sky Bet: If you bet ยฃ10 on a team to win the Euros, they will give you a ยฃ3 free bet every time they win a match.
I’ve put my tenner on France.

BetFair. Same offer but bet ยฃ25 and get ยฃ5 whenever they win a match. I put this on Spain but probably should just have put it on France again.

William Hill. Bet ยฃ10 on England to win the euros and they will give you a ยฃ5 free bet every time they win.

Given that there is an extra round this year compared to previous years, these all seem like really good value to me, if you’re any good at turning over free bets at odds of over evens.

Lots of bookies (Coral are one) also have free bet offers based on top scorer. E.g. Bet ยฃ25 on someone to be top scorer and get a ยฃ5 free bet whenever they score. It’s potentially a really good offer but I’m leaving it alone as really you do need to have good knowledge for this one.

Bet 365 are offering a free in play bet on England vs Russia up to ยฃ50. As far as I can see, there’s no minimum odds requirement. I’ve gone for something nice and obvious and will use the no risk in play bet on something a bit more risky.

The Unbettable Fighters of MMA

I wanted to address the issue of whether anyone can be truly unbettable as a fighter, when it comes to MMA.

This weekend was a stinker for me as I picked my first incorrect winner as a tipster, to break that unbeaten run and go to 33-1. Given that Warlley Alves, my new nemesis, is absolutely the better fighter and should rightly have been a heavy favourite; what made this a bad bet? What made him lose? What can I take forward and not make the same mistake again?

  1. The glaring thing that everyone knew about Warlley is that his cardio wasn’t great. Whenever I’ve written any mailers, I always try to press this home as the most important feature of any fight.
  2. In reality though, just as important is gameplanning. I said in my writeup that Barberena’s strongest area was the clinch. I also said Warlley wouldn’t be dumb enough to come out all guns blazing again, like he did vs Alan Jouban. He came out guns blazing, gassed his arms out in the first 20 seconds of the fight with a guillotine, then clinched up for pretty much the rest of the fight. It was unfathomable.

So does it make Warlley Alves an unbettable fighter? Well kind of, yeah. He’s just lost to someone he outmatched pretty much everywhere by literally doing the only thing he shouldn’t have. It doesn’t mean you should bet against him though; the guy has massive upside.

What I will be doing going forward is adding a few new attributes to the MMA fighter skills on the fighter profiles. Here are my ratings for Warlley Alves.

Warlley Alves Physical & Mental Ratings

Warlley Alves Physical & Mental Ratings

You’ll notice a very low rating now for Cornermen. That covers training and preparation too because if I can see that was the worst gameplan possible, his corner should be able to too! If you can, keep a log of which camps offer up terrible gameplans. I had a red flag on ATT for a couple of fights, whilst The MMA Lab, home of Brian Barberena, have offered up some superb corner advice in the past and really do appear to know how to gameplan too.

I’m going to add Reliability / Predictability, Will To Win, Dictates Fight and some other general skill attributes. The predictability is the most important new addition. When betting any MMA fighter, you want to feel they are predictable. That goes for both your pick and their opponent.

The issue then is that if both guys are predictable, it’s easier for the bookmakers, such as, to set their odds. That doesn’t mean there isn’t value of course!

It’s kind of similar to the concept of betting the over vs the under. According to our combined MMA handicapper stats, way more people correctly predict the over (69%) than the under (59%), but the odds are longer on the under, as it’s more unpredictable. It depends what sort of MMA bettor you are. Betting the over is by far the most popular prop bet in our directory, making up 24% of total prop picks and as a handicapper, I believe it’s a lot easier to sell picks if you’re nearly always getting them right at fairly modest odds, rather than being totally hit and miss but with better odds.

To back that up, the top 10 handicappers are much more starkly in the favour of betting the over.

172 picks on the over, 73% success rate and average odds of 1.59.
43 picks on the under, 56% success rate and average odds of 1.84.

So it’s up to you guys to assess the value there. Overall stats from the entire directory suggest that although riskier, betting under at longer odds is better. However, looking just at the top guys, betting the over but getting it right nearly all the time is the way to go.

I sent out a mass mailer before this weekend’s UFC 198 card discussing the importance of using % chance numbers rather than gut instinct, as gut instinct tends to be overly optimistic,

From now on, if a fighter is totally unpredictable, like Jon Jones or Warlley Alves, in terms of whether they’ll under-perform or do stupid gameplans, I’ll be factoring in that predictability very heavily indeed!

The Best MMA Analysis (Video)

Many of you will already be aware of these videos but I wanted to bring people’s attention to Inside The Octagon with Dan Hardy and John Gooden. They provide excellent in depth analysis for the major fights in the UFC. They will bring up things you haven’t noticed even if you’ve studied hours of tape for a fight and whilst the two of them work really well together, Hardy especially is very elloquent and concise.

My word of caution though; they are UFC employees and are therefore obliged to put both sides of the story forward when analysing a fight. They may therefore place undue weight on one guy’s strengths to make it look like he has more of a chance than he really does, to sell the fight. Even so, if you are dead set on picking one fighter in a particular fight, their analysis will usually pick up on the other fighter’s strengths and give you pause for thought.

Here’s their analysis of Werdum vs Miocic. They also state that they’ll have a breakdown of the co-main (Jacare vs Belfort) and Anderson Silva vs Uriah Hall coming soon, so subscribe to the UFC’s channel if you haven’t already and wade through the promo stuff to find these little gems.

How to make money betting UFC in play – Guide

First off, I’ll state that I’m not a high stakes gambler. My current betting bankroll is just over ยฃ1200 ($1700US) off initial deposits of ยฃ650, about 6 months ago. I didn’t really bet at all before I set up this site. However, since starting handicapping (and doing well at it), I have started to take betting on MMA seriously. I’d sayย  slightly less than half the money I’ve made so far has been on in-play, so whilst you obviously can’t handicap that aspect of betting, I can try and explain what I try to do.

The most important thing is multi-tabbing. You can totally make money betting UFC in play if you just have one bookmaker but you’re ignoring a goldmine if you do. Several bookies offer in play betting on the UFC (Unibet, Ladbrokes, Boyles, Bet365 and probably plenty of others) and the lines offered are frequently massively different. Just on UFC 196, there were 3 fights where I managed to get guaranteed profits as different bookies had a different underdog at the same time.

I don’t view that as a particularly great way to make money, as profits are minimal. Also, you can get screwed over if one bookmaker suspends the market and you only get half the bet on in time. That happened to me with a 7 unit bet ๐Ÿ™‚ So if you do wanna bet two bookies for a guaranteed profit, I’ld suggest doing so only in the first couple of rounds and even better, between rounds (when the odds don’t change so much). Most of the bookies also have a delay of about 8 seconds before your bet is placed and if the odds change, it might ask you to re-confirm, so make sure the bet has actually gone through!

Anyway, forget that sneaky business, the best way to make money in play (at least for me, so far), has been doing a bit of scouting beforehand to understand the basic fundamentals of a fighter’s game and then bet accordingly, preferably an underdog who is outperforming their odds. That might sound obvious but the key is to get on the bet before everyone else catches on… and to do that, a little knowledge goes a long way, especially on a card full of live dogs.

So going in to UFC 196 I had my eye on several guys as live dogs, should a particular set of circumstances play out, primarily Darren Elkins. Although I couldn’t handicap any of this, I did send out a mass mail to my followers on BetMMA with notes on all the fights I scouted and what to watch out for. Regarding Skelly vs Elkins I wrote.

Having scouted Chas Skelly before, I donโ€™t particularly rate him and he has a bad gas tank…. bla bla bla a bit of fight analysis…. However, if you have access to in play betting and itโ€™s a close R1, even if Elkins just about loses the round, Iโ€™d get on him in play. If you can get something like +450 after losing the first, itโ€™s worth a shot because I think he should take over the later part of the fight. If he wins the first round and the price is anything acceptable, get on it.

The key point regarding this fight was the fighters’ respective gas tanks. That’s the number one value maker when two guys are evenly matched…. One guy goes balls to the wall early, ends up as a heavy in play favourite, you get on the opponent with a better gas tank at some tasty price like +300 and he takes over the fight to win a decision. In this instance the first round was really tight and with Chas being the favourite, money came in on him. At the end of round 1, Darren Elkins was available at +300, 4.0, 3/1 with Ladbrokes. He’d actually WON the first round with two of the judges. He did indeed take over the fight and won 30-26, 30-27, 29-27. Happy days.

On the other side of things, in play lets you avoid making value bets that turn out to be bad judgement calls. Guimaraes was another guy I scouted pretty heavily pre-event. I thought he was under-valued at +250 and the line should have been a little closer. However, it really wasn’t worth a pre-event bet, as I did think he’d probably end up losing. Instead, I wanted to see if he could land a takedown and keep Miranda on the mat. He couldn’t, so I didn’t bet him. In the end I actually bet “someone to win by TKO” near the end of R1 at +200, as Guimaraes started to really look gassed after a failed takedown attempt.

The only place I know which offers the specific props like that is Unibet. The odds there tend to be by far the most accurate to what’s going on and therefore trickiest to make money on straight fight bets, but there are obviously still plenty of opportunities.

With regards those props, I am also partial to some incremental returns from stuff that’s never going to happen in a million years, even if it’s only a 5-10% return. “Nobody wins by sub” or “Nobody wins in R1”, when there’s 1 min 30 left in the round and nothing’s happened between two pillow fisted, granite chinned fighters. It all adds up, if you can be bothered! Again though, it’s all about prior knowledge because you can’t afford to get any wrong at those sort of odds.

Going back to straight up fight betting, one other key thing to do is keep an eye on both the Twitter hashtag for the UFC event and at least one play by play writeup. I personally keep an eye on Sherdog. At the end of each round, have a look at who people think won the round on Twitter and the PBP and if the odds are the wrong way around, get on it. Taleb was an example of that at UFC 196. He was still a decent underdog at the end of R1 (something like +225) but most people on twitter and all 3 people on Sherdog thought Taleb won R1. Combine that with the fact that Taleb was looking better than evenr and Silva has questionable cardio and it was a bit of a no-brainer. The KO was just a really nice bonus.

A lot of that covers when to bet on the dogs but should you bother betting on favourites in play? Obviously it’s riskier as the odds will be shortening from an already pretty weak return, so in general don’t just bet anyone who you think is winning. People come back from adversity all the time. However, sometimes it’s just clear that once a certain incident happens, one guy’s pretty screwed, or at the very least, is in big, big trouble. Again, it comes down to a little bit of knowledge. Saggo vs Salas at UFC 196 is a perfect example. Before the fight I didn’t know whether Saggo would get the fight to the mat, where he has a massive advantage. Salas ended up taking the fight to the mat, got refersed straight away and that was the cue for a decent sized in play bet on Saggo at around 1.25 / -400.

Finally, the last remaining point is cashing out your bets. I cash out all the time on things I don’t think will come off. However, don’t think of it like “oh, I bet $5 and I can cash out at $2.50, at least I’m getting half my money back.” No you’re not. If you bet $5 at 2.00 / +100, you’re effectively betting $10 to win $2.50, if this is an either / or outcome, because you’re losing out on the potential winnings too. Would you bet 1.25 or -400 to take the other side of the bet? If the answer’s yes, cool, cash out.

Remember, you can’t win em all, however much you try. Every so often you’ll get screwed by a bad judges call (I bet Marion Reneau in play pretty big against Ashlee Evans-Smith). Also, don’t try and force it. Some events just aren’t great for in play, e.g. if all the favourites end up winning. I am of the opinion that in general, you’re better off not betting at all than betting a fight at worse odds than you think it should be, so when that’s the case, forget about betting and just enjoy the damned fight! Or if you can’t help yourself, just play those little 5-10% bankers ๐Ÿ™‚

N.B. Time permitting, I send out a mailer about possible in play opportunities for each event to my followers on the main site. Visit my profile to follow me.

MMA Handicapper Interview: UFC Moneymaker

Happy New Year everyone! As we had a couple of weeks between UFC events, I decided to do an interview with one of our handicappers. If you are interested in being featured as the next MMA handicapper interview, let me know.

First up, we have UFC Moneymaker. Based in the UK, like myself (hence us talking about MMA in the UK later in the interview). Since signing up on Bet MMA, he has a record of:

Overall Stats

Straight Fight Picks



Right 46 (55%) Right 23 (79%) Right 20 (43%) Right 3 (38%)
Wrong 38 (45%) Wrong 6 (21%) Wrong 27 (57%) Wrong 5 (63%)
Ave Odds 1.97 Ave Odds 1.76 Ave Odds 2.01 Ave Odds 3.03
Units Bet 162.0 Units Bet 73.0 Units Bet 76.0 Units Bet 13.0
Units Profit 23.03 Units Profit 27.55 Units Profit -7.62 Units Profit 3.10
ROI % 14% ROI % 38% ROI % -10% ROI % 24%

Winning Events: 14 (67%)
Losing Events: 7 (33%)

UFC handicapper / tipster record

You can find UFCMoneymaker’s profile here and his personal website at where you can find his long term record.


Bet MMA: What’s your real name and how long have you been handicapping MMA?

ufcmoneymaker: Matt White, and it’s been around 3 years now.

Bet MMA: What do you do in real life as a job?

ufcmoneymaker: I work in Sports betting for a large Sportsbook.

Bet MMA: How would you describe your handicapping style in general?

ufcmoneymaker: I’d say I approach from a fan perspective, I don’t charge for tips so I look for things I like not just quick profits. I’ve always been a prop man but went through a poor run and needed to change something, so I moved to Straight, Prop and Parlay; also ramped up the units.

Bet MMA: So, presumably as a fan, you have a good base knowledge but how much tape watching do you do specifically for picks? And would you say that tape watching often changes your initial gut instinct pick?

ufcmoneymaker:ย  I watch every event and have a vast library of Pride and UFC to pick from.
I tend to go with my gut for most picks, referring to tape if I am in any doubt. I also work out what I fancy before looking at any odds, that way I don’t get swayed by the oddsmakers; given that they are so frequently wrong.

Bet MMA: When the odds are heavily one way and you think the other way, is your prediminant emotion excitement or self-doubt? ๐Ÿ˜€

ufcmoneymaker: Doubt, briefly. You always think whether you have missed something obvious. But sometimes the bookies are caught up in the sort of hype that a handicapper can’t possess. Just look at recent dog bets on Karolina Kowalkievicz (sic) Rose Namajunas and Ryan Bader. All decent dogs but should have been favs.

Bet MMA: So, it’s 23 fights since you got a straight pick wrong, including 7 underdogs. That’s pretty sweet. Have you done anything differently recently to hit that run?

ufcmoneymaker: Nothing, my mates always say Blind Squirrels and Broken Clocks. Toss a coin often enough and you’ll go on a decent run. I always get concerned about streaks as regression to the mean is a bitch.

Bet MMA: I think that runs a bit more than luck, so let’s hope the graph keeps pointing in the right direction ๐Ÿ™‚
Anyway, going back to the underdogs thing. Do you look at specific types of fighter that might offer value? By that specifically, I mean that I personally seem to have started picking unbeaten fighters to lose their first fight. Is there a certain category of fighter that you think offers potential value?

ufcmoneymaker: I tend to fade the fighter who has been on lengthy layoff. Im also keen to look a first timers facing more established fighters. KK was a standout v Markos. Also, previous winners with a poor performance is an auto fade; mikael Lebout for example.

Bet MMA: So, you say you do this mostly on instinct. How much had you seen of Karolina Kowalkievicz previously and how much non-UFC MMA do you watch? And what ultimately made you go for that pick?

ufcmoneymaker: I’d seen precious little, but when she was signed a mate was raving about her as the best European female fighter outside the UFC. I trust his opinion on that. I do watch some non-UFC, bellator is a decent watch but mostly squash matches, as with Rizin. I’ve always looked to attend BAMMA and Cage Warriors when they are nearby, as well as judging regional fights in Stoke on Trent for Ross Pointon.
I picked KK because I felt the UFC would be desperate for JJ v KK in Poland at some stage in 2016 and their current style is to build fighters we style rather than put them up against the best in the division.

Bet MMA: Ross Pointon: He of the most grizzly head cuts, for those reading this who haven’t seen it! Have you been to any UFCs live? I’m presuming so… If so, what’s the best fight you’ve seen live?


ufcmoneymaker: That’s the one, he runs Night of the Gladiators locally. I’ve been to a few: ufc138 in Birmingham, 146 in Vegas as well as the Fight Night cards at Wembley, O2, Glasgow, Manchester and Nottingham.
Best fight though? You’ll have to give me a couple of minutes on that one ๐Ÿ™‚

I don’t think I have a best fight, I’ve got a most uncomfortable (Sexton v Andrade) and UFC 146 was by far the best event.

Bet MMA: I can empathise with the uncomfortable thing. The first fight I saw live was a one sided beatdown in a near empty O2 arena. When it finished me and my friends turned to each other and said “urgh…. I’m not sure I enjoyed watching that.”
Thankfully when it filled out, it didn’t feel as weird.

ufcmoneymaker: The Sexton fight should have been stopped, it was a beat down.

Bet MMA: So, you mention your wife; what’s she make of MMA in general? You also mentioned your friends – it sounds like you’re lucky enough to have mates who are also into MMA.

ufcmoneymaker: She tolerates it. Absolutely despises football and knows I love sport so she picks the lesser evil. I’ve got a couple of mates into MMA, only one that’s as into it as I am, that’s my event buddy ๐Ÿ™‚
To be honest just being able to shoot the shit with someone about MMA in general is a nice bonus.

Bet MMA: So, back to handicapping, what would you say was your best pick to date?

ufcmoneymaker: That’s easy, starting out I got Ross Pearson over George Sotiropoulis in the 3rd round at 22/1

Bet MMA: What made you go for that?

ufcmoneymaker: I don’t know, I fancied inside the distance but uk books were not offering it so I rolled the dice on a gut feeling.

But, I’ll always remember Condit v Kampmann II – I went through the main card, props, straights, cumulative odds of just over 1000/1

Bet MMA: Do you remember what you went for in that 1000/1?

Yeah I do, actually:
Brad Tavares by decision at 5/4
Court McGee by decision (over Robert Whittaker) 7/4
Tavares over McDaniel
Mizugaki over Erik Perez
Gastelum over melancon by sub 7/1
RDA over Cerrone by decision 11/5
Condit over Kampmann by ko 13/8

My finest hour. Nearly repeated it the following week but the main event broke me.

Bet MMA: Yup, that’ll do nicely! Wanna share how much you had on that and what you did with the winnings?

ufcmoneymaker: You know what sucks? I didn’t have a penny on it. It was part of an article I wrote for Fighters Only. Nobody has ever let me forget it.

Bet MMA: argh…. ballbags!

ufcmoneymaker: I said…..similar. I don’t bet all my tips. Some I do, but mainly only when the line is really wrong.

Bet MMA: How did you get that gig with Fighters Only?

ufcmoneymaker: At UFC Nottingham.
There was a UFC fight club party, I invited them along as a promo piece, got talking to the online editor and put a proposal up to him, he went for it and I’ve been doing it since.

They did a video story, interviewed a few of the members, gave away some tickets and hosted a hand wrapping competition with Stitch. I won with a friend of mine, I had to wrap her hands in toilet paper like Stitch showed us with the proper stuff. We had Leon Roberts, Mark Goddard, Alex Gustafson there.

Bet MMA: Have you met many fighters in real life? If so, who’s been the nicest?

ufcmoneymaker: Yeah a fair few. Met Cain Velasquez while walking down the Las Vegas Strip, Johny Hendricks at UFC 146, Edson Barboza in the mgm ice cream parlour, he posed for a pic after Jamie Varner had ko’d him. Gustafson a few times, Ross Pearson a few times,Luke Rockhold was pretty cool too as was Brittany Palmer. Nicest was Randy Couture though, met him at a BAMMA event and took the time to say hi despite security trying to push us all away
Oh I forgot about Stefan Struve ( he towered over me and I’m 6’2″) but Pat Barry was pretty cool too, despite the fact he should have finished over an hour earlier.

Bet MMA: Yeah. that’s really cool of him.

ufcmoneymaker: Most of the fighters are top guys. They recognise the fan involvement in the sport.

Bet MMA: I’d like to give a shout out to the late Shawn Tompkins at this point actually. He climbed up the side of the bleachers to take a pic with me after a weighins once.

Bet MMA: Looking forward, what do you reckon to the general landscape of MMA at the moment? Any fighters you particularly look forward to watching? Do you think we’re at a stage where the sport itself is fully developed or do you think we’ve still got a way to go before it reaches its potential?

ufcmoneymaker: Long way to go yet. People are conditioned to boxing, MMA by comparison is viewed as barbaric due to violence, even though the skillset is far higher.
I am very keen on Aljamain Sterling, he’s got a huge future ahead of him.

The sport needs more mainstream icons. McGregor and Rousey have been great for the public profile of the sport. Those who don’t get MMA know who they are, that’s a great thing as it legitimises the sport.

Bet MMA: It’s funny isn’t it. Some people don’t like MMA cos they think it’s boring, then some don’t like it cos they think it’s too violent.

ufcmoneymaker: Yeah people I know confuse it with wwe which irritates me. Others refer to it as oiled up men cuddling on the floor. We need to get some mainstream celebs at the events, people that can be identified with. Whatshisface from One Direction and Noel Clarke don’t quite cut it yet.

Bet MMA: I think we need a regular set of events, every couple of months in europe. When all the events are late at night, i dont think there’s any reason for media to cover it.

ufcmoneymaker: Yeah, although Anderson Silva is going to bring huge attention next month. Terrestrial tv in the uk will also help.

Bet MMA: For sure… it’s just that there won’t be another event in the UK for probably 6 months, so there’s never any momentum. It probably needs Sky to buy the rights and put it on Sky Sports News.

ufcmoneymaker: Tell me about it. Best year was when we had two, London and Manchester. Downside is that ticket prices will rocket and events will be harder to attend; guess we can’t win.

Bet MMA: Yeah, im not sure im too bothered about going live anymore. first UFC we went to was ยฃ25 for the front row of the top bowl at hte O2, just behind the exec boxes. Would probably be ยฃ150 now. That was only 7 years ago.

ufcmoneymaker: I just paid ยฃ166 for l1, square on the octagon for Feb.

Bet MMA: Yeah, I’m not sure I can justify that sort of price, even if I can write it off. Might make the trip to Stockholm for one or something like that and make a holiday of it with some mates.

ufcmoneymaker: I’m aiming for Berlin or Poland.

Bet MMA: So… Proper questions…. In terms of your own website, how long have you had that set up? I know you give away your picks for free, so have any of your followers ever sent you any pennies as a thanks for winning them some money?

ufcmoneymaker: I set it up when I started with Fighters Only; it was more for recording all my picks. Nobody ever sent me a single penny, I should put up a tip jar. When I get around to my new site maybe I’ll put one up.

Bet MMA: Any aspirations of making any money out of it all?

ufcmoneymaker: Long term maybe, I don’t have the userbase yet.

Bet MMA: Do you have any fighters that you keep going back to bet on again and again? And conversely, anyone who’s burned you mutiple times?

ufcmoneymaker: Repeat bets are Lawler & Rockhold, the burner is Overeem. He’s done me too many times. I’ll bet Rockhold against pretty much anyone, huge fan. I’d bet Mighty Mouse over Overeem, he’s done me that many times.

Bet MMA: Yeah, heavyweights are a tricky pospect. I tend to steer clear. Looking at your stats though, you seem to spread your picks across all weight classes. Mostly lower main card guys. Is that deliberate or just happenstance?

ufcmoneymaker: Coincidence I’d say. For FO I cover all on the main card, so I’ll always get a decent mix. Occasionally I’ll not get a chance to do a write up so I’ll end up putting my instinct picks out; eg TUF cards.

Bet MMA: Do you tend to look at stats much? Have the BetMMA stats pages provided any helpful insight?

ufcmoneymaker: I rarely look at stats unless it’s for an individual fighter, the past doesn’t predict the future. Or, at least I try not too.

Bet MMA: Well I’ll have to see if the Bet Bot can prove you wrong on that one ๐Ÿ˜€

ufcmoneymaker: Ha ha, bring it on.

Bet MMA: Does it bug you that you use a 1-5 unit scale and others use at 1-11 scale, which if you used, you’d be higher up the leaderboard? *N.B. I will be trying to do an adjusted table at some point to help with that.

ufcmoneymaker: It used to. Before April this year I was a strictly 1 unit man, if I’d been more proactive my lifetime stats would probably be double what they are at least.

Bet MMA: What have we got left to talk about?

ufcmoneymaker: I don’t know, least favourite event live? Wembley, worst event I’ve ever seen, either on TV or in person.

Bet MMA: What was that event?

ufcmoneymaker: It was Barao v McDonald, it stunk.

Bet MMA: Moving on then. What do you think of MMA judging at the moment and does it impact your picks in any way?

ufcmoneymaker: As a judge myself I feel for some judges, but many don’t help themselves. Judging has no impact on my picks, unless it’s Benson Henderson ๐Ÿ™‚

Bet MMA: Why him in particular?

ufcmoneymaker: He’s a point fighter, he seems to know what they are scoring on. Others are not so lucky.

Bet MMA: What did you reckon to the scoring this weekend at UFC 195?

ufcmoneymaker: I’ve not seen the whole thing yet due to work. I had some contentious views on the title fight though, not everyone agrees with me.

Bet MMA: Oh yeah?

I gave Condit, round 1
Lawler Round 2
Narrowly went with Lawler in the 3rd
Condit in the 4th
The fifth, while universally scored for Lawler I gave to Condit by virtue of winning 4/5 mins of the round. The flurry from Lawler was impressive but it was a final roll of the dice, based on scoring criteria it had to go to Condit.

Bet MMA: Well, whilst I think you’re off your rocker for scoring R3 for Lawler and think you’d probably change your mind if you watched it again, I don’t disagree on R5. Lawler lost 4 minutes of R5. I think people only think it’s clearly Lawler because they thought the epic comeback win might have been on. If that was R1, they might have had a different view.

ufcmoneymaker: Didn’t help that I knew the result before watching the fight, but I thought I’d score it anyway. Maybe I’ll rewatch the 3rd, but Twitter was completely against me for the 5th.

Bet MMA: I stayed up to watch it live. First time I’ve done that in about 5 years.

ufcmoneymaker: See, I did that for 194; it was the bigger event.

Bet MMA: One point I’ve tried making on the Condit fight. This magical sixth sense that some people think they have for deciding how damaging a shot is…. Lawler throws massive punches with his teeth showing. That doesn’t mean they hurt more. If Conor hadn’t knocked out Aldo with that punch, people would have thought that was a sort of 4/10 power punch.
Condit caught Lawler plenty of times with good solid shots; they’re just more efficient and less obviously aggressive.

ufcmoneymaker: Agree, completely. The big question was do you score for a guy who throws less and lands more or a guy who throws more and lands less.

Bet MMA: Or in this instance, a guy who throws more and lands more ๐Ÿ™‚

ufcmoneymaker: Percentage wise Lawler landed more didn’t he?

Bet MMA: Not sure. I think condit landed more shots than Lawler threw. From recollection, I think Condit’s land % was probably about 35%. I personally thought Condit, Ansaroff, Noke and Soto all won. I picked them all in a pickem contest, so I was pissed off ๐Ÿ™‚

ufcmoneymaker: According to Lawler landed 53% total strikes and 52% significant strikes. Condit was 35% on both.

Lawler vs Condit UFC 195 strike stats

Bet MMA: Oooh, good guess. Right, let’s wrap things up with a couple of quick general questions.

Bet MMA: What would be your general advice to anyone who wanted to bet on MMA, in terms of making good picks? Both straight fight picks and what to look for in a prop. And as a nice finishing post, how about putting together a semi realistic fantasy card with like 5 fights, which would suit a main / co-main / rest of the card.

ufcmoneymaker: For general advice, I’d say don’t rush into it. People look at betting as easy; it isn’t. Making money at MMA is a slog and it’s getting harder. Bookmakers are smartening up and it won’t be too long till the odds are unbettable, like most boxing matches. Start with props, get to know how they work and use them for fun, particularly in the big favourites. It’s the only time you’ll get value from someone like Rousey.

For a fantasy card? I’d opt for a 5 fight main card.
To get the show underway I’d pick
Carlos Condit v Matt Brown
McGregor v Cerrone
Fedor v Randy Couture
co-main is GSP v Anderson Silva
and headlined by Jon Jones v Cain Velasquez.

Call it UFC: Awesome Violence


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UFC 194 Betting Offers – McGregor vs Aldo

Just a quick blog post to let people know that several of the UK bookmakers are putting up big special offers for new customers wanting to bet on the UFC 194 Aldo vs McGregor card.

If you sign up with NetBet, they will give you 7/1 on either fighter. Any odds over the standard odds at the time will be paid out as a free bet.

The other big bookmaker offer on UFC 194 is courtesy of BetFair. They will give you 5/1 on Conor McGregor and 8/1 on Jose Aldo. Given that Aldo is now the favourite, that’s a pretty sweet deal!

This isn’t something they’ll do very often – it’s only cos the rest of the casual fan base is jumping on the MMA bandwagon for the weekend, so make the most of the freebies!

MMA Betting Apps

If you want keep up to date with our mma handicappers more easily on your mobile, we’ve now got three apps relating to the MMA stats and MMA betting aspects of the site.

The main one for UFC betting is our MMA Free Betting Tips app. It also includes the paid betting tips but it’s just called free betting tips cos that sounds more appealing to new users ๐Ÿ™‚ From there you can keep up to date with everyone’s picks and follow handicappers to get emails alerts when they make new picks.

The second app is our MMA / UFC Statistics App. This basically covers all the stats bits of the sites. As with the rest of the site, it weaves together UFC betting stats with general stats such as height, reach, weight, age etc to provide plenty of very useful MMA Betting info.

The final app is our odds conversion tool. Created for us by Mark O’Sullivan, on of our top users for MMA Tycoon. This app allows you to convert from American, Decimal and % Probability odds formats.

Please download and rate the apps to help push us up the rankings on Google Play!

Guide to successful MMA betting

We’ll start with some fundamentals and work down to some more…. unusual suggestions ๐Ÿ™‚

Tip #1: This very first point might be a deal breaker for a lot of you. You can make SOME money betting on instinct but really, if you want to make any decent money, you 100% have to be either watching fight tape specifically for the fight or taking really good notes as you watch fights generally and using those notes on future predictions. I bought UFC fight pass specifically for this purpose. If you’re gunna end up making money from your picks, it’s definitely worth the investment. Of course, there are “other resources” you can use, if you don’t have the money for fight pass.

Tip #2: Break down each fighter forensically. I have a list of attributes and effectively turn the fighters into computer game characters. I’m sure a lot of people do this but my tip here is that you can’t just do it for a few attributes like power, chin etc… You have to go nuts. I have about 40 attributes. I don’t literally fill in all these attributes, however, I have them there mentally as a sort of check point.

I also think it’s important to note which of the attributes are going to be key in the bout you are trying to break down. The obvious one is chin. I would suggest very rarely betting on someone with a poor chin. Plus, you can flag them up as a massive potential opportunity if they face someone who’s a bad stylistic matchup. Which brings me to…

Tip #3. Transitions. This, I believe, is pretty much the most underrated part of breaking down a fight. A fighter may have an advantage in certain area but if they can’t get it there, it really doesn’t matter. The most obvious part of this analysis is takedowns. You can’t just look at takedown defense or offense stats, you need to make notes on what type of takedowns people go for. Perfect example would be breaking down Daniel Cormier vs Anthony Johnson. Johnson stuffed 8 of 8 takedown attempts vs Phil Davis, who is a national wrestling champion. So, you might therefore think he’d be hard for Cormier to take down. However, Cormier goes for clinch takedowns and trip takedowns during transitions and Phil Davis was shooting double legs. Totally, totally different.

If you have limited time to research a fight between two guys who are stylistically very different, I would recommend your first bit of analysis was on transitions.

The second most important thing I like to assess is whether a fighter accepts being in bad positions (i.e. pressed up against the cage, or in guard on the bottom). We’ll look at that more in point #9.

We have a notes feature at Bet MMA, which lets you keep as many notes on fighters as you like, all for free, so you are more than welcome to sign up and make the most of that feature. In the near future we’ll also be adding feature for you to rate each fighter for a number of attributes and potentially we’ll even have an automated system to flag up good bets based on your ratings.

Tip #4. Set your own line. I like to pretend I’m the bookmaker and set my own line, first starting with a percentage chance of each fighter winning, then converting that into odds. Once you’ve done that, assume you’re 5% off at least, then assess whether there’s really any value in betting the fight. You can use our odds conversion tool to do that.

Tip #5. Don’t assume people will fight with a good gameplan. Sometimes you’ll think “man, this guy could totally win if he fights like xyz”. I thought that for Mark Eddiva’s fight against Levan Makashvili, in Levan’s UFC debut. Fighters in there debut lose more often than not, because of the UFC jitters. It was also in the Phillipenes and Levan was a last minute replacement. All big red flags. Eddiva was something like +450 and I thought honestly it should have been around +150, because Eddiva was a superior striker.

I ultimately left the pick (correctly), because after re-watching Eddiva’s fights I decided he just couldn’t be trusted to fight a sensible gameplan. I didn’t trust him to fight his way out of bad positions and keep the fight where he had an advantage. In the end he did spend too much time with his back against the cage, drifting his way to a split decision loss. So that brings me to:

Tip #6. Know when to fold on a bet. I used to play poker. If you do 5 hours research on a fight and you think “yeah, this COULD happen”, that’s kinda like putting a load of chips into a hand on the flop… maybe you get suckered into calling all the way to the river because you’re heavily invested and lose even more chips. Basically you don’t have to bet every time you think there’s some value and if there’s a a nagging doubt in the back of your mind, maybe you’re best off just leaving it. Certainly it’s a good idea to leave it for 24 hours and revisit it the day after.

Tip #7. Not every event is the same, so don’t try and make the same number of picks on every card. What’s the point in that? Sometimes you should be making 5 picks per card, sometimes you should make none. This is one of the massive problems with subscription based services who charge e.g. $20 per month to view picks. If you’re charging people a subscription, you have an obligation to make picks and sometimes there’s absolutely no value in doing that.

Tip #8. Bear in mind the stats. There are very signifincantly different patterns in different weight classes. Check out our MMA Stats pages and make the most of them. We’ve got filters for a vast number of different variables such as fighters making their debut, all weight classes, genders, octagon size etc. Generally familiarise yourself with the patterns. Knowledge is power! ๐Ÿ™‚

Tip #9. Remember that a hell of a lot of fights (with the exception of heavyweight) end up going to decision. With that in mind, volume of output and accepting being in bad positions are two very important factors. Lots of fighters sit in guard on the bottom or allow themselves to be pressed against the cage. Someone like Charles Oliveira for example, sits in guard for ages. He’s an extremely dangerous fighter but if he doesn’t get a sub, there’s a chance he’ll lose a decision. Clinch control is probably less obvious but more important. Lots of fighters will defend a takedown well but ultimately will not circle away from the cage, so they spend a lot of time in defensive mode, which is a great way to lose a decision. It doesn’t matter how you think a fight should be scored, base your picks on how MMA actually IS scored.

Of course, that above point is assuming you’re going to pick a winner. Why pick a winner? I’ve said this to several people but I believe picking winners is an ego thing whereas picking the over / under (particularly the over), as a less active betting market, is often where the good money is at! You can’t call any betting “sensible” but this is as close to sensible money as I think there is in MMA betting.

Often you’ll get an over 1.5 rounds rather than the usual 2.5 rounds if the odds are a little wider. If you think those adds are picking the correct winner but are way too wide, well then the over is probably a good bet.

Tip #10. Make notes after you get things wrong. What was it that you didn’t see coming? Note it down and don’t do it again.Maybe you fell for….

Tip #11. Commentator coolaid! Some commentators are really bad when it comes to over-hyping things. In my opinion Kenny Florian is the worst but they all do it to an extent. So don’t believe everything a color commentator says – it’s their job to make people sound better than they are. HOWEVER, with that said, do listen to the commentary. I know some people like to watch fights with the sound off… I think that’s a bad idea. You hear a lot of different little bits of info in commentary from fighter belt levels to explanations of mitigating circumstances for previous losses (x fighter had a cold when cutting weight etc). Most bettors and presumably the odds makers too, base most of their odds and betting patterns on hard facts. If you can find mitigating reasons why those hard “facts” are a bit off, like a fighter coming in with an injury or personal problems, that’s probably going to mean the line undervalues that fighter.

Tip #12. Similarly, check the records of a fighter’s opponents, especially if they are new to you / the UFC. Sometimes a fighter has a pretty sweet looking record but the people they’ve beaten have a combined record of 17 wins and 142 losses. You can’t then bet based on this information but this should be a good basis for starting out your research. Have a look at what sort of fighter the person you’re scouting has fought in the past and as an example, if someone’s coming in with a sweet striking record, have they faced and beaten a really good wrestler yet? The early UFC principles still apply so a flashy striker will still get a lot of hype but when they run up against a wrestler, they’re still probably gunna lose.

Tip #13. This is a really random weird one. ๐Ÿ™‚ If you have DVRd the fights and want to see if someone has good head movement, watch a bit of the fight in x2 speed. It makes it a lot easier to see if a fighter isn’t moving his head at all, because everything else is moving loads and their head’s staying still.

Tip #14. Dont fall in / out of love with one guy… Just cos a fighter’s won you money in the past, don’t feel some sort of affinity towards them because you’ll tend to over-value him (or her of course). I think that’s probably why a lot of people picked Neil Magny over Demian Maia. He’d made people decent money in the past and that can cloud your judgement. The very opposite applied in his next fight as people then massively underrated him vs Erik Silva. Some people will tell you a fighter’s only as good as their last fight. Complete garbage but be grateful that some people are that into stupid hyperbole, because that sort of nonsense logic means there’s always going to be value in the betting lines! ๐Ÿ™‚

Tip #15. And finally…. Bet the dog. Just as a general basis for betting, if you bet the dog, you’re gunna tend to make money. At the time of writing this article, according to our MMA underdogs vs favorites page, blindly betting the underdog (at the best available odds), will net you 9% ROI, which is better than the ROI you get from a lot of professional MMA handicappers! Ignore the really big underdogs, who do tend to lose, and that ROI is increased significantly. The real sweet spot appears to be in the +186 to +150. Fighters in this odds range out perform their odds by 15%, meaning a massive ROI if you just bet on fighters in that odds range.

Hopefully those mma betting tips will help you but remember, don’t go nuts. If you lose money, pack it in and don’t chase your losses. Don’t kid yourself and keep a note of how much you are actually winning and losing.

Cappertek Update

I’ve posted this on already but adding it here too…

So, as I expected, the admin at Cappertek, dodgy geezers that they are, have edited my pick history to make me look way less profitable and have marked me as a “Scam”, in response to me calling them out in these blogs. They have changed several of my 11 unit winning picks to 1 unit picks.

If you’re gunna act like I’m dodgy when you’re dodgy, you should expect some comeback, so I can assure Cappertek, that every time they prod at me, I’ll make sure they come out of it looking way worse than I do… You can’t make someone who isn’t a fraud look like a fraud, when they have independent proof they’re not a fraud. However, when someone is a editing profiles and allowing dodgy picks, like CapperTek, it’s pretty easy to prove that.

Specifically because I knew they’d do this, here’s a video I made of my betting results LOGGED INDEPENDENTLY ON CAPPERTEK. I made sure to navigate to my profile so you can see it’s not a copy of the website.

Proof of CapperTek profit history before site admin edited it.

This video was made mid-July. Search for on CapperTek now and you’ll see they’ve changed my unit profit from 105.74 units down to 13.27 units by editing my pick history.

I’ve made another video of the current stats, in case they change it again… Please do change it or delete it CapperTek, as I say, you just keep making yourself look worse and worse!

Here’s a screengrab of the current state of play on my old Cappertek account.


CapperTek Profile


Additionally, site admin have also posted this “review” on my Cappertek profile,

Cappertek's "Review" of our site

Cappertek’s “Review” of our site

Again, CapperTek‘s apparent attempt at intimidation. I don’t care if people know who I am. Thousands of people know who I am. Here – this is a link to my house. Anyone who’s nearby, feel free to come say hi and we’ll talk about MMA…. That’s the thing when you aren’t a scam, you don’t have anything to hide.

This picture is from my Linked In profile. I also made no mention of my personal twitter account, which they’ve linked my Cappertek profile to, so Cappertek have basically internet stalked me, linked to my personal twitter which I never use, copied my picture from my personal linked in page that was nothing to do with CapperTek. They then blocked me on twitter on my BetMMA and my personal twitter accounts. Creepy behaviour, huh.

As for that actual Cappertek review

All sites claim profitable MMA picks / history / records however none of his services are documented anywhere on the web (except his own sites) or by any reputable 3rd party documentation sites like CapperTek.

Oh… you mean apart from where I videoed my picks, when they were verified on your site. Nice try, Cappertek. Keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.

Update 14th Jan 2016. Cappertek contacted me in late 2015 to tell me that Marc, the admin responsible for deleting me, editing my picks and marking me as a Scam, had left his position with Cappertek and the new admin wanted to make things right and apologise. They offered to open up my account on the site again and said I could continue using them. Ultimately I decided that wasn’t something I wanted to do, but they have removed the scam label, the fake review and have restored my picks. I can’t say how Cappertek will act in the future or what this means for anyone else but hopefully that’s a step in the right direction.